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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s 10 O&#8217;Clock, Do You Know Who Your City Is?</title>
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		<title>By: The Urbanophile &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Detroit Roundup and Other Miscellany</title>
		<link>http://www.chicagocarless.com/2009/01/14/its-10-oclock-do-you-know-who-your-city-is/comment-page-1/#comment-3641</link>
		<dc:creator>The Urbanophile &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Detroit Roundup and Other Miscellany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] friends at Chicago Carless have another great post, this time dissecting the tourist info sites for Cincy and Chicago. He picks up on something I&#8217;ve long noted about Cincinnati as very [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Urbanophile &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Midwest Miscellany</title>
		<link>http://www.chicagocarless.com/2009/01/14/its-10-oclock-do-you-know-who-your-city-is/comment-page-1/#comment-3635</link>
		<dc:creator>The Urbanophile &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Midwest Miscellany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to be a local mental block, as I noticed the same thing with their Agenda 360 plan and Mike Doyle noticed it with their CincinnatiUSA branding. Cincinnati acts like it is embarrassed about what it is. But Cincinnati&#8217;s a great city with [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to be a local mental block, as I noticed the same thing with their Agenda 360 plan and Mike Doyle noticed it with their CincinnatiUSA branding. Cincinnati acts like it is embarrassed about what it is. But Cincinnati&#8217;s a great city with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Midwest Miscellany &#124; Michigan Real Estate</title>
		<link>http://www.chicagocarless.com/2009/01/14/its-10-oclock-do-you-know-who-your-city-is/comment-page-1/#comment-2921</link>
		<dc:creator>Midwest Miscellany &#124; Michigan Real Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to be a local mental block, as I noticed the same thing with their Agenda 360 plan and Mike Doyle noticed it with their CincinnatiUSA branding. Cincinnati acts like it is embarrassed about what it is. But Cincinnati&#8217;s a great city with [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to be a local mental block, as I noticed the same thing with their Agenda 360 plan and Mike Doyle noticed it with their CincinnatiUSA branding. Cincinnati acts like it is embarrassed about what it is. But Cincinnati&#8217;s a great city with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quibble, I&#039;d think New Orleans has deeper African-American cultural roots than Chicago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quibble, I&#8217;d think New Orleans has deeper African-American cultural roots than Chicago.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Doyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Doyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy, that may be so, but how Cincinnati feels about itself makes absolutely no difference to where it&#039;s actually located.  And no matter how Cincinnati feels, it&#039;s region is still a part of Ohio and Kentucky.

Not even my hometown can pull that off and get away with it, so why would Cincinnati think it could?  New York City, where I&#039;m originally from, is indelibly New York, NY.  It doesn&#039;t matter how much NYC sneers at the rest of the state (and it sneers oh, so hard), that&#039;s where it is and everyone knows it.  

In fact, that city-state feeling is common among major cities.  My adopted city of Chicago, the San Francisco Bay Area, even some smaller cities like Portland, Oregon, maintain that rarified, aloof air that they are somehow above the states they were born from.  

None of them, however, would dare to reject even saying the names of those sates.  Cincinnati just doesn&#039;t get away with pulling it, either.  The only thing the monicker &quot;CincinnatiUSA&quot; makes someone unfamiliar with Cincinnati think, is, &quot;What happened to Ohio?&quot;

Any brand that elicits confusion like that is a pretty wrong-headed brand.  More like an anti-brand, one that says, &quot;Look how much we don&#039;t get it.&quot;  That&#039;s a shame for the Queen City, because you guys aren&#039;t supposed to be marketing, in a vacuum, to yourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy, that may be so, but how Cincinnati feels about itself makes absolutely no difference to where it&#8217;s actually located.  And no matter how Cincinnati feels, it&#8217;s region is still a part of Ohio and Kentucky.</p>
<p>Not even my hometown can pull that off and get away with it, so why would Cincinnati think it could?  New York City, where I&#8217;m originally from, is indelibly New York, NY.  It doesn&#8217;t matter how much NYC sneers at the rest of the state (and it sneers oh, so hard), that&#8217;s where it is and everyone knows it.  </p>
<p>In fact, that city-state feeling is common among major cities.  My adopted city of Chicago, the San Francisco Bay Area, even some smaller cities like Portland, Oregon, maintain that rarified, aloof air that they are somehow above the states they were born from.  </p>
<p>None of them, however, would dare to reject even saying the names of those sates.  Cincinnati just doesn&#8217;t get away with pulling it, either.  The only thing the monicker &#8220;CincinnatiUSA&#8221; makes someone unfamiliar with Cincinnati think, is, &#8220;What happened to Ohio?&#8221;</p>
<p>Any brand that elicits confusion like that is a pretty wrong-headed brand.  More like an anti-brand, one that says, &#8220;Look how much we don&#8217;t get it.&#8221;  That&#8217;s a shame for the Queen City, because you guys aren&#8217;t supposed to be marketing, in a vacuum, to yourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Jefferey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jefferey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy&#039;s comments are quite correct in that Cincinnati  (including the northern Kentucky bridgehead cities) is a place unto itself, actually somewhat insular and apart from Ohio and Kentucky.

Living only 45 minutes north here in Dayton one feels more a part of Ohio...or more a part of Appalachia since there are so many moutain folk (&amp; their descendents) living here.  We sometimes joke that Dayton is the northernmost city in Kentucky. 

Cincinnati, though, is sort of an island on the land.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy&#8217;s comments are quite correct in that Cincinnati  (including the northern Kentucky bridgehead cities) is a place unto itself, actually somewhat insular and apart from Ohio and Kentucky.</p>
<p>Living only 45 minutes north here in Dayton one feels more a part of Ohio&#8230;or more a part of Appalachia since there are so many moutain folk (&amp; their descendents) living here.  We sometimes joke that Dayton is the northernmost city in Kentucky. </p>
<p>Cincinnati, though, is sort of an island on the land.</p>
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		<title>By: Elsewhere &#171; Visualingual</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elsewhere &#171; Visualingual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] indianapolis, maritime life, mexico city, new york city, public art, rural life, urban life  It’s 10 O’Clock, Do You Know Who Your City Is?: Chicago Carless takes on the visitor web sites for Chicago and Cincinnati and is not impressed by [...]</description>
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